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fake chips, last part ?

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 In November 2018 I purchased a couple of LM35 temperature sensors from ebay.  These are in a 3 lead TO-92 package and look like a transistor.  One lead is power, another is ground and the third is a voltage output, 10 mV per degree Celsius.  I had been using the LM34 temperature sensor with the same pinout but which has a Fahrenheit output so I wanted to try the Celsius version. who can tell just by looking if it's a fake ? These were my notes at the time:  " tried one, got hot (smoke), then tried an LM34, it was OK " I tried plugging the other one into one of those LCD based component testers, it indicated it was a dual diode, so not even a transistor ? In other words, it's FAKE.  Three strikes and you are out !  No more trying to get bargains on ebay.  I did get my money back but yikes, smoke !  It's one thing to have something fail but another to actually be potentially dangerous ! BTW this is another chip that is out of stock at both Dig...

fake chips, part 2

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I bought some LM2936 5 volt voltage regulator chips on ebay in 2014.  At that time the LM2936 sold for something like $1.36 in quantity 100.  Now they are over $2 in quantity 100 if you can find them (2023 arrival dates on Mouser).  They are an expensive part, see https://wb9kzy.blogspot.com/2022/02/ldo-regulator-ic-chips.html These ebay parts were 11.50 for 20, less than 1/2 price.  After I got them I could see they sorta looked genuine except the date code was only 4 digits instead of 5: looks OK but does it work ? as compared to the real ones: the genuine chip And they did seem to regulate, with a 5 volt output.  But the problem was the Iddq quiescent or idle current.  The real ones are about 7 uA with a 9 volt input: 7 uA for genuine LM2936 These fakes were 62 uA at 9 volt input: 62 uA for fake LM2936 With 9 times the idle current they must be some other regulator chip laser marked to be the "top shelf" item.  I didn't bother trying the reverse bia...

Fake Chips

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 There really are people who sell fake chips.  They might not know that they are fake but obviously someone along the supply chain knew they were fakes. I blame the recent uptick in IC fakes on laser marking.  It's relatively easy for someone to connect a laser marker to a PC and generate a pretty convincing mark on an IC. However sometimes they slip up.  An example:  the MC12080 prescaler chip.  This is an ECL chip meant to divide frequencies from say 200 MHz to 1600 MHz by a factor of 10 (other factors are pin programmable).  I used this chip in the Prescaler kit. http://wb9kzy.com/prescalr.htm The real chips are from onsemi which used to be ON Semiconductor (and was originally part of Motorola) and look like this (this one is from Mouser): When viewed from farther back there is what appears to be a white stripe on the left, it's really just 6 vertical lines "drawn" by the laser marker. But I've tried some of the ebay vendors of this chip and gotten ...